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Isn't there an interesting game this weekend?
#41
I think Mullins and Vigurs were good when they came on and I’d have a midfield 5 against Dundee Utd
 
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#42
[quote="Mackie" pid='73856' dateline='1537638669']
Whichever of the 2 co-managers made that decision to start with that line up needs to have their decision making privileges revoked.

Yes, baffling team selection for me - seemed obvious before the game that we would have to bring on Vigurs for his passing, McManus for his movement and Mullin to address the lop-sided midfield. It seemed equally obvious who in the team wouldn't be able to provide such passing, movement and width. I suppose the changes were made eventually but too late and we could easily have lost this game..
 
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#43
Liam Kelly is a liability, if we're playing with a left full back it has to be Stelios.

Fox had a few top class saves. I thought Draper was our best out field player in the first half, I agreed with taking Vigurs on but took it to be tactical not Draper having a bad game. Cowie was poor, 5 yards of his man allowing them time to take a few touches and swing in a cross. Fontaine and Morris defended well but Fontaine's distribution was ATROCIOUS, lumping high to an ict player every time.
 
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#44
(09-22-2018, 07:37 PM)Ullapool Staggie Wrote: Did it or could it effect anyone or anything in the future? No. Stop moaning at the young lads for something harmless and talk about the game, just looking for things to moan at.

If a missile thrown on the pitch earns us a fine then the answer to that is yes.

Pretty coloured smoke must be mind blowing for bairns and some people.

Anyhoo... I do worry our management team didn't see fit to start with Vigurs, and today cemented my opinion I'd rather see Mullin start on the right ahead of Cowie.

That first half was shocking, thank goodness for Fox's double save. After the substitutions in the 2nd half we were a different team and looked by far the likelier to take 3 points.

I think my choice of first XI differs wildly from the managers, but I think they'd rather tinker.
 
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#45
First half was absolutely hopeless. Wrong team, wrong shape for who was on the pitch. Fontaine, Draper and others giving the ball away constantly and Caley coming forward with ease.

After Vigurs and Mullin came on it changed, but we were lucky to not be 3-0 down by that point.

The gaffers need to really sit down and sort out what they want in terms of side and formation. Chopping and changing isn't helping at the minute.

Also, drop Kelly. Absolute waste of space.
Quote:God bless the Stag Men and Children.
 
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#46
100 mile an hour start from both teams but as the dust settled Caley provided the most cohesive moves. Thankfully Scott Fox was at the top of his form when unfortunately many of his teammates were well short of theirs.
Whilst the team selection left most of us underwhelmed, if all players had played to their best form it may possibly have worked.

Too many below par performances almost lost us the game in the first 45 with only Fox standing between us and real embarrassment.

Where the management team really underperformed was in not making the logical changes at half time - that may just have given us the time we needed to win the game.

Some players need to have a good look at themselves as if they cannot raise their game to its highest level for this derby, in front of a capacity crowd , then they will not make it. We were deteriorating back to the hump into the air style, which was prevalent last year, before the substitutions - that is disappointing and not acceptable.

In the end we nearly made it but there needs to be a real in depth learning from this performance by players and management alike. Automatic promotion is certainly not a given.
 
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#47
(09-23-2018, 09:26 AM)Brick in the wall Wrote: Some players need to have a good look at themselves as if they cannot raise their game to its highest level for this derby, in front of a capacity crowd , then they will not make it. We were deteriorating back to the hump into the air style, which was prevalent last year, before the substitutions - that is disappointing and not acceptable.

Capacity crowd? I hope you’re joking.

There was rakes more than 100 empty seats.
 
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#48
It seems pretty unanimous that the management team got it wrong on Saturday. In the he first half it was embarrassing how much better Caley were than us. No wonder Foxy was the MoM.

We were dreadful down the right hand side. I always get mixed up between Morris and Watson, but I think it was Morris who was playing right back. He never even looked like wanting to cross the half way line, and Cowie looked like a lost sheep wandering around. I told a visitor sitting next to me that he'd played for Scotland and he seriously didn't believe me.

Mullins and Vigurs should have come on at half time, as the difference was huge. Lindsay was anonymous. Fontaine, who I like, cleared the ball every time without fail to one of their players. In his defence there was usually no-one to pass to. Still not sure about Draper. Lindsay was anonymous. Midge looked dangerous but he looked more likely to hit the new flats in the Jail than the goal.
How long do we give Billy Mackay before he scores a goal ?

Pity yesterday that Marcus wasn't fit ( presumably ).

IMHO our best formation is 3-5-2

Fraser Watson or Morris Fontaine

Mullins Lindsay Draper ( in front of the back 3 ) Vigurs Gardyne

Graham McManus

Anyway I'm not the manager and never will be, but hopefully Ketts and Ferg will learn from Saturday's mess.
Caley must be kicking themselves that they didn't get 3 points.
 
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#49
(09-22-2018, 10:58 PM)Despot Wrote: First half was absolutely hopeless. Wrong team, wrong shape for who was on the pitch. Fontaine, Draper and others giving the ball away constantly and Caley coming forward with ease.

After Vigurs and Mullin came on it changed, but we were lucky to not be 3-0 down by that point.

The gaffers need to really sit down and sort out what they want in terms of side and formation. Chopping and changing isn't helping at the minute.

Also, drop Kelly. Absolute waste of space.

Afraid gaffers getting caught up in Billy Jim style the younger legs should have started , afraid Draper Cowie no good for this league not enough energy ,
Hope we reach January still in touch big changes needs or we stay down ,
Keller Dunn what’s happened ICT Right Back a donkey we attacked down left Garyne Gardyne If midge gets hurt oh boy ,but he midge good and all he is should have had winner Twice with chances , the He was simply firing like a scatter gun
No we need to keep a core group together stop chop change, enough of that with Jim Mac and Billy Dodds , ian Vigurs probably one of best players in this league
Get players in that can run off him ,and allow him get into positions where he can use lethal left peg , he can hit a ball hard with accuracy ,it’s not happening


Oh late press here Vigurs was on bench because he missed couple days training
Was down south at funeral didn’t get home until,after midnight Friday so that’s how he was on bench , it’s early days we will get chances to get back up ,as for remark on Kelly he’d be better doing roadwork with Highland council plenty time
 
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#50
(09-23-2018, 11:53 AM)It's Only A Game Wrote: ...Mullins and Vigurs should have come on at half time, as the difference was huge. Lindsay was anonymous. Fontaine, who I like, cleared the ball every time without fail to one of their players. In his defence there was usually no-one to pass to...

The surprise to me was that after JUST making it to half-time 0-0, struggling to make four consecutive passes, neither of our two managers changed the set up, we went back out after ht with the same shape!

We persisted for another 20 mins until Mullin and Vigurs were introduced on the 65th minute. Then the game really started to turn in our favour.

Lessons need to be learned as this is a very unforgiving league and the management team have been backed like never before.

On another note, it was Morris at centre half with Fontaine, and Watson was right back. All three defended well and looked steady but Watson offered nothing going forward and Morris and Fontaine really need to work on their distribution.
 
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#51
Mullin was poor last week so I can understand why he was dropped, he should have been on at HT though it was clear we needed a change.

Early days but that's 2 very meh performances in a row.
Said it already but we are really missing Fraser, word yesterday that he needs to see a specialist about his injury?

 
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#52
Well that was quite worrying. I thought we started the season looking very bright but that's two abject performances (yesterday being the worst of the two) in a row, and in my view, we're lucky to have got anything out of either game.

The first half really was like watching men vs boys. Very worrying indeed.
 
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#53
(09-23-2018, 10:58 PM)StaggiesAwayFromHome Wrote: Well that was quite worrying. I thought we started the season looking very bright but that's two abject performances (yesterday being the worst of the two) in a row, and in my view, we're lucky to have got anything out of either game.

The first half really was like watching men vs boys. Very worrying indeed.

So was it quite worrying, or very worrying? I’m confused.
 
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#54
(09-23-2018, 11:07 PM)Pete The Jakey Wrote: So was it quite worrying, or very worrying? I’m confused.

First half, very. Overall, quite.
 
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#55
I kinda agree, the first half was very poor and when I was chatting to the people next to me we agreed it was lucky we weren't one or two down already.

Vigurs has to start next week, he was great when he came on and Mullin adds a bit of pace that we don't otherwise have, and together they changed the game coming on in the second half.
 
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#56
Looking back at the game the big weakness we had was the lack of no-one on the right of midfield to pull the Caley midfield and defence wide and create space for Lindsay in the middle. What was Cowie's role. He was all over the place and repeatedly tellling other players (e.g. Mackay) to cover his place on the right of midfield. The introduction of Mullins pulled Caley wide and we started getting space and chances. This weakness should have been obvious to the managers early on and changes made even if it was swapping Gardyne from left to right occasionally. Lessons need to be learned.
 
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#57
I think McManus must start every game he offers so much more with his pace than the other two.
When we started games with Mullins, McManus and Vigurs we have won and played excellent football.
With Graham and McKay we either get beat or draw.
Both Graham and McKay are trying but are not pacy enough to seriously bother other than poor defences.
Hopefully they will see the light and realise who is our best starting 11.
 
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#58
(09-24-2018, 01:22 PM)the reaper Wrote: Looking back at the game the big weakness we had was the lack of no-one on the right of midfield to pull the Caley midfield and defence wide and create space for Lindsay in the middle. What was Cowie's role. He was all over the place and repeatedly tellling other players (e.g. Mackay) to cover his place on the right of midfield. The introduction of Mullins pulled Caley wide and we started getting space and chances. This weakness should have been obvious to the managers early on and changes made even if it was swapping Gardyne from left to right occasionally. Lessons need to be learned.

Repeatedly cutting in and walking into bodies seemed to be his role. He's also annoying me at how he refuses to follow runners into the corner and demands Watson did it (yesterday, at least), while taking up a position on the edge of the box to stop a ball across for a runner to hit- mostly, Caley ignored that and just put it into the box meaning his positioning was complete wasted.
Quote:God bless the Stag Men and Children.
 
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